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Post by tabitha on Jun 6, 2006 21:36:08 GMT
I am having this problem where all of a sudden I cant sleep. It is not like I am not tired or I have stuff on mind before bed. I wanna know if any of you here take anything natural to help you sleep??? I have chamomile tea usually in the evening and take some valerian if I wake up in the middle of the night. For some reason it doesnt work if I take it before bed, but I usually wake up at 2.00 ish and take something then if I cant get back to sleep.
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Post by fezzarooooo on Jun 6, 2006 21:39:54 GMT
I need to get something too, the last time I tried valerian it made me *ahem* yeasty I've been on and off zimovane for over 5yrs now, haven't need them recently as I'm on amitriptyline but would love to find something which could help me get off both.
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Post by saucyvegan on Jun 7, 2006 9:19:12 GMT
Pob, do u know what ur going to do yet??
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Post by Pob on Jun 7, 2006 9:33:56 GMT
Just potter along doing my own thing, probably.
Lots of demos, lots of vegan fayres and meetups.
Really gutted I can't go to Pamplona for the running of the nudes - that would have been on my own, too.
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Post by tabitha on Jun 7, 2006 9:43:19 GMT
Whats Pamploma Pob?
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Post by Pob on Jun 7, 2006 9:56:14 GMT
Protest against bull running in Pamplona. Everyone runs naked along the same route the day before. www.runningofthenudes.com/There will be loads of lovely vegan boobies, bums, and willies there!
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Post by tabitha on Jun 7, 2006 11:21:23 GMT
Ive just read the article on that link about what they do to the bull. I knew it was horrific, but I didnt realise just how bad. Poor, poor creatures. I hate this world sometimes.
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Post by maya on Jun 7, 2006 14:03:47 GMT
I will try that. Thanks!! I am having this problem where all of a sudden I cant sleep. It is not like I am not tired or I have stuff on mind before bed. I wanna know if any of you here take anything natural to help you sleep??? Valarian is plant based and that is a natural and harmless sedative that you can pick up in health food stores. Trust me, it does work!
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Post by RedWellies on Jun 7, 2006 14:18:11 GMT
Pob, are you going to the Bristol Fayre on sat?
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Post by Pob on Jun 7, 2006 14:35:31 GMT
That's the plan so far.
Not finalised somewhere to stay yet.
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Post by fezzarooooo on Jun 7, 2006 15:12:57 GMT
*sigh* I found a skirt I've had from when I took ill, it looks like a frikin child's skirt the waist is so small! I measured it with the tape and it was a 24 inch waist, how the hell did I ever fit into it. I've decided to pin it up in the bedroom so on me bad days when I feel the urge for comfort food it'll be a reminder of why I must be good. I discussed it with my doctor and she says it's the inactivity with the ME and it'd be very difficult for me to loose weight with diet alone. I did manage to loose a stone in the 11wks before our wedding but I was living on boiled brown rice and steamed veg which isn't the tastiest long term option. I was thinking of trying my pre-wedding diet on mon, tues & weds each week to make it feel less grueling.... tabithaaaaaaaaaaaaa you're the super gymbunny what do you think? *feels a bit of a blimp today*
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Post by Pob on Jun 7, 2006 15:24:42 GMT
Can you do much exercise with ME? Is it a lack of physical energy or a lack of mental energy?
I find getting enough exercise a problem. Doing exercise for exercise sake is a bit dry and not fun for me. I prefer doing sports. Can you do that with ME?
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Post by fezzarooooo on Jun 7, 2006 15:39:45 GMT
No pob at best I can go for a walk and if I walk too far I can end up in bed for days. Although there is a lack of physical & mental energy there's a lot more too it. It affects every part of my body, my blood, heart muscles, joints & muscles. ME makes your muscles go honeycombed, a condition normally associated with athletes who have over trained i.e. before I've even started any activity my body is as knackerd as someone who's already done an extreme work out. My husband noticed it after he ran the marathon this year, he was knackered but was able to get a shower & go for an Indian while getting a shower can be one of my greatest challenges in a day . They're making discoveries which indicate that ME peeps cells work far faster than healthy peeps, it's as if our body never gets to 'switch off' and that's exactly how it feels. It doesn't help that one of my (weekly) migraine symptoms is access hunger and this is also a weird ME symptom. My doc said she could prescribe me an appetite suppressant but I don't feel I'm heavy enough to justify taking them. I'd like to loose some weight to see if it would maybe help my fatigue levels though. *sigh* never listen to me, I'm just a bit fed up today, I'll feel better if tabitha will let me play with her nipples later ;D
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Post by veggiesosage on Jun 7, 2006 16:21:46 GMT
Feral, you may have seen this at the time but this is an article that appeared in the 'Times' 'December 22, 2003 Brain test proves fatigue syndrome By Oliver Wright, Health Correspondent DOCTORS believe that they may have found the first scientific evidence for chronic fatigue syndrome, which affects more than 150,000 people in Britain. A team of researchers at Hammersmith Hospital, London, scanned the brains of sufferers of CFS, which is also known as myalgic encephalomyelitis (ME) or “yuppie flu”, and found enlarged gaps in fatty acids that were not present in non-sufferers. They have been backed by similar findings in Scotland and Japan. They found that when sufferers were later treated with fish oil supplements the gaps in the brain closed and they started to feel better. CFS leaves patients with flu-like symptoms of physical and mental exhaustion which can last for years. Often people are so badly affected that they can be bed-ridden. So far there has been no medical explanation and some experts have claimed that the condition does not really exist. Researchers found that sufferers were low in a group of essential fatty acids, known as EPAs, high levels of which are found particularly in fish. Basant Puri, a neuro-psychiatrist at Hammersmith, said: “It was these natural gaps that we found to be enlarged in people with CFS. We have found what appears to be a cause for CFS but we don’t know why people get it.” Action for ME, which represents sufferers of the illness, said that the research was welcome but it believed that there may be several causes. Chris Clark, the charity’s chief executive, said: “All the evidence so far suggests that there is no single cause.” www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,8122-940225,00.html' Not very helpful vegan wise I'm afraid.
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Post by saucyvegan on Jun 7, 2006 16:25:16 GMT
I didnt know Feral had ME!!
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Post by fezzarooooo on Jun 7, 2006 16:38:17 GMT
lol saucy you daft bint!
Thanks for that veggie, I'm aware of the fish oil theory which seems to work well for some people but not all. I think ME blocks your body absorbing a lot of nutrients etc they're always finding new things that we're deficent in. I take EPO & vegan Omega 3,6 & 9 suppliments daily and they do help a bit with mental ability.
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Post by veggiesosage on Jun 7, 2006 16:46:42 GMT
Thats what I was going to ask next, whether you'd tried the 'fish oil substitute' type oils but obviously you've already thought of that. Glad it helps a bit anyways.
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Post by fezzarooooo on Jun 7, 2006 16:49:08 GMT
Aaaww bless you veggie, you're such a sweetie *hugs veggie*
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Post by saucyvegan on Jun 7, 2006 17:01:05 GMT
No no I wasnt joking Feral cat.....I really didnt know that u had ME!! I dont even know what it stands for but I dont think its nice??
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Post by fezzarooooo on Jun 7, 2006 17:13:41 GMT
It stands for Myalgic Encephalomyelitis saucy, I can type it but can't pronounce it lol
Now where's tabitha I want some nipple action!
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