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Post by fezzarooooo on Jun 11, 2006 15:52:43 GMT
Could you try and be a lil more patronising? Ask saucy if I've got a problem with her & just because I disagree with what you seem to be doing does not mean that I need to chill. I am old enough to have my own opinion you know without it being influenced by my opinions on anyone else.
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Post by maisiepaisie on Jun 11, 2006 15:56:13 GMT
What is that supposed to mean? Why don't you just say what you're thinking Need I spell it out for you young lady? You are forcing your dog (How long this poor animal has had to put p with it I do not know) to eat something it doesn't like day in day out!!! I don't know about everyone else but that sounds a little bit crappy to me. Your dogs need rescuing, if a veggie or vegan rescues it it can be claimed as an ALF action So are you saying I should feed my dog meat? If you are then please tell me how it is ok for me to pay someone to kill one species of animal to satisfy the taste buds of another when there is perfectly adequate vegan food available
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Post by vaiovegan on Jun 11, 2006 16:03:52 GMT
Could you try and be a lil more patronising? I can try It must have had something to do with your post to me, asking if I knew her, saying she made you cry. I misunderstood what you said maybe? A post you didn't bother to reply to I might add. I do think you need to chill. Like I have said, I haveposted in reply to some of your posts, you chose to egnore them and jump down on me. I will reply in kind. I don't quiet understand what you are saying but I do hope my opinions influence people. Thats what the aims of the movement are, aren't they?
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Post by vaiovegan on Jun 11, 2006 16:07:28 GMT
Need I spell it out for you young lady? You are forcing your dog (How long this poor animal has had to put p with it I do not know) to eat something it doesn't like day in day out!!! I don't know about everyone else but that sounds a little bit crappy to me. Your dogs need rescuing, if a veggie or vegan rescues it it can be claimed as an ALF action So are you saying I should feed my dog meat? If you are then please tell me how it is ok for me to pay someone to kill one species of animal to satisfy the taste buds of another when there is perfectly adequate vegan food available Yes I am saying you should feed your dog what ever it is happiest with. If not you should give your dog to someone who can look after ALL its needs. You are forcing your vegan lifestyle on a dog that isn't happy with it. In my eyes that is a form of abuse. If you'er unhappy with me replying to you just say, feral is unhappywith my posts to you but will carry on with them untill you are unhappy with them.
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Post by fezzarooooo on Jun 11, 2006 16:11:39 GMT
It must have had something to do with your post to me, asking if I knew her, saying she made you cry. I misunderstood what you said maybe? A post you didn't bother to reply to I might add. I do think you need to chill. Like I have said, I haveposted in reply to some of your posts, you chose to egnore them and jump down on me. I will reply in kind. I'd just like to point out that you've obviously mixed me up with tabitha, if you're going to be so rude and smart arsed with people you could at least get your facts right. I haven't ignored any of your posts as they weren't addressed to me but I sure will be ignoring them from now and and please feel free to add a little to your next post as it does make your witterings all the more superior.
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Post by vaiovegan on Jun 11, 2006 16:18:39 GMT
It must have had something to do with your post to me, asking if I knew her, saying she made you cry. I misunderstood what you said maybe? A post you didn't bother to reply to I might add. I do think you need to chill. Like I have said, I haveposted in reply to some of your posts, you chose to egnore them and jump down on me. I will reply in kind. I'd just like to point out that you've obviously mixed me up with tabitha, if you're going to be so rude and smart arsed with people you could at least get your facts right. I haven't ignored any of your posts as they weren't addressed to me but I sure will be ignoring them from now and and please feel free to add a little to your next post as it does make your witterings all the more superior. Yes like I said a misunderstanding. Take a look at what I have posted before you go onat me. Out of all the post I have made this afternoon I have quoted maisiepaisie how many times? I would rather you do ignore my posts. Its a hot day and I have come here to debate/discuss/talk not rant on with children. Go back and read what you posted to me. Then ask yourself why your face is so red
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Post by maisiepaisie on Jun 11, 2006 16:24:25 GMT
So are you saying I should feed my dog meat? If you are then please tell me how it is ok for me to pay someone to kill one species of animal to satisfy the taste buds of another when there is perfectly adequate vegan food available Yes I am saying you should feed your dog what ever it is happiest with. If not you should give your dog to someone who can look after ALL its needs. You are forcing your vegan lifestyle on a dog that isn't happy with it. In my eyes that is a form of abuse. If you'er unhappy with me replying to you just say, feral is unhappywith my posts to you but will carry on with them untill you are unhappy with them. OK I'll tell you the situation with my dog. I got my dog off someone who was going to put him in rescue. Unknown to me at the time this dog is very temperamental and has bitten me and my son several times. Myself and my son have learned to read the signs that Sammy will bite and so avoid it. Sammy has other behaviour issues that need expert handling and because of all this I am trying to find another home for him because I do not have the experience nor the time to rehabilitate him. As I am out of the house for long periods the original idea was for Sammy to stay with my mum while I am out but because he attacks other dogs I cannot do this. If I hadn't taken Sammy he probably would have been put to sleep by now which is why I am trying to find him a suitable home where this will not happen. Do you still think I am abusing this dog? You are welcome to take him if you think you can help him. Also you still have not justified why it is ok to pay someone to kill one species of animal to feed another. Are dogs more important than chickens, cow, rabbits etc?
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Post by tabitha on Jun 11, 2006 16:29:47 GMT
It must have had something to do with your post to me, asking if I knew her, saying she made you cry. I misunderstood what you said maybe? A post you didn't bother to reply to I might add. I do think you need to chill. Like I have said, I haveposted in reply to some of your posts, you chose to egnore them and jump down on me. I will reply in kind. I'd just like to point out that you've obviously mixed me up with tabitha, if you're going to be so rude and smart arsed with people you could at least get your facts right. I haven't ignored any of your posts as they weren't addressed to me but I sure will be ignoring them from now and and please feel free to add a little to your next post as it does make your witterings all the more superior. Oh Wow! Im sorry! you didnt really think Saucy made me cry did you!! Sh*t I wish she was on line. Saucy and I take the p*ss out of each other all the time. I love her to bits!!
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Post by vaiovegan on Jun 11, 2006 16:48:12 GMT
Yes I am saying you should feed your dog what ever it is happiest with. If not you should give your dog to someone who can look after ALL its needs. You are forcing your vegan lifestyle on a dog that isn't happy with it. In my eyes that is a form of abuse. If you'er unhappy with me replying to you just say, feral is unhappywith my posts to you but will carry on with them untill you are unhappy with them. OK I'll tell you the situation with my dog. I got my dog off someone who was going to put him in rescue. Unknown to me at the time this dog is very temperamental and has bitten me and my son several times. Myself and my son have learned to read the signs that Sammy will bite and so avoid it. Sammy has other behaviour issues that need expert handling and because of all this I am trying to find another home for him because I do not have the experience nor the time to rehabilitate him. As I am out of the house for long periods the original idea was for Sammy to stay with my mum while I am out but because he attacks other dogs I cannot do this. If I hadn't taken Sammy he probably would have been put to sleep by now which is why I am trying to find him a suitable home where this will not happen. Do you still think I am abusing this dog? You are welcome to take him if you think you can help him. Also you still have not justified why it is ok to pay someone to kill one species of animal to feed another. Are dogs more important than chickens, cow, rabbits etc? Ok we got off on the wrong foot so lets start again. PM me and I will see if we can sort out your dog problem. I need to know a few things about him first but I will set about trying to find a home for him. I have not got anymore room or I would be driving to you now to collect him. I have a friend who has a large farm who might be able to take him. But since she has many animals we need to know what he is like etc. As for the feding of meat to another animal. Well if I had to I would, it is as simple as that. i have a friend who gets meat bits from a local organic butcher but never pays for it. Off cuts etc. He feed his dogs this way because he has a problem with his dogs diet also. He has reduced it to a point there is hardly any meat in there food. You can mix alsort of food into it. PM me and we will see what we can do for him. By the way, I know a little puppy who likes apples
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Post by vaiovegan on Jun 11, 2006 16:49:21 GMT
I'd just like to point out that you've obviously mixed me up with tabitha, if you're going to be so rude and smart arsed with people you could at least get your facts right. I haven't ignored any of your posts as they weren't addressed to me but I sure will be ignoring them from now and and please feel free to add a little to your next post as it does make your witterings all the more superior. Oh Wow! Im sorry! you didnt really think Saucy made me cry did you!! Sh*t I wish she was on line. Saucy and I take the p*ss out of each other all the time. I love her to bits!! We all take the pi** now and then Some are better than other at knowing
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Post by tabitha on Jun 11, 2006 16:59:22 GMT
Perhaps "some" shouldnt jump so quickly down others throats then
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Post by vaiovegan on Jun 11, 2006 17:08:49 GMT
Perhaps "some" shouldnt jump so quickly down others throats then And maybe I will leave you all to it. All the best.
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Post by bobbywomble on Jun 12, 2006 9:19:53 GMT
yippee well done maisie for rescuing the doggy in my experience (ive had a dog since i was 9) all dogs are pigs when it comes to food and will eat pretty much anything you put in front of them without too much protesting i once had a dog that would eat brussell sprouts, pizza, slippers, tea bags, and if you left a pint on the floor it would be gone so vegan food should not be a problem i think you are confusing the dogs other behavour problems with the giving of vegan food its more likely the dog is a slow eater or has been traumatised at meal times!!rather than it doesnt like the food , or they could have a dental problem? good on you for sticking with him/her even though it has problems a lot of people would have turned the dog in to battersea by now it unusual for me to have a strong opinion about anything, but having a pop at maisie for looking after her dog... sorry i dont agree the womble over and out
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Post by maisiepaisie on Jun 12, 2006 9:45:30 GMT
Thank you Bobbywomble I'm certain it is the food he doesn't like though because if I take him round to my mums, given the chance he will wolf down her dogs food in seconds. Its Pedigree Chum though so not only is it meat it's also animal tested At the mo I'm giving him Yarrah pate mixed with happy dog which he's ok about but not very enthusiastic
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Post by tabitha on Jun 12, 2006 10:25:58 GMT
Bearing in mind Ive only ever had a dog when I was aged 4 (am really a cat person), would your dog eat soya meat, made all gravy ish with dog biscuits and stuff Maisie.? Or would that not be good for him? Again PLEASE no one jump down my neck as this is only a random suggestion from someone who keeps cats.
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Post by vaiovegan on Jun 12, 2006 10:38:40 GMT
Bearing in mind Ive only ever had a dog when I was aged 4 (am really a cat problem), would your dog eat soya meat, made all gravy ish with dog biscuits and stuff Maisie.? Or would that not be good for him? Again PLEASE no one jump down my neck as this is only a random suggestion from someone who keeps cats. It is a good idea to mix different thugs into animals food. Our friends have a main meal happy dog mix then we add veg and other foods into it. Pasta etc they thrive off it and gravy is a must. They way I look at it is I wouldn't like to eat the same old food every day.
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Post by Pob on Jun 12, 2006 10:41:14 GMT
I got some samples of Ami cat to try with my cats. They don't seem to keen on the regular dry food, anyway. One of them really hates it, and the vet said he needed to eat more dry food. So I thought I would put this down along with tinned regular food and see how they get on with it. First indications were pretty good.
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Post by fezzarooooo on Jun 12, 2006 10:50:11 GMT
Masie do you ever give your dog the left overs from your own food? My mum's dogs were all fed like this. She would lob some spuds (in their skins) in the pressure cooker and dish them out when they'd cooled. We also had a 'dogs box' under the kitchen bench for all the bread & biccis (which had gone soft), during the winter my mum would have brewed up a big pot of tea and poured over the bread & they would have quaffed it down like mad things. She must have been doing something right as when she lost the last of the litter last year he was the grand old age of 17.
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Post by vaiovegan on Jun 12, 2006 10:58:33 GMT
Masie do you ever give your dog the left overs from your own food? My mum's dogs were all fed like this. She would lob some spuds (in their skins) in the pressure cooker and dish them out when they'd cooled. We also had a 'dogs box' under the kitchen bench for all the bread & biccis (which had gone soft), during the winter my mum would have brewed up a big pot of tea and poured over the bread & they would have quaffed it down like mad things. She must have been doing something right as when she lost the last of the litter last year he was the grand old age of 17. Thats a great idea. We have to hide our vg rack in our house because they eat the lot, even onions Dogs seems to eat almost anything. I have noticed that dogs who have canned food are hard to change. Wonder if they put something adictive in it. Didn't whiskers do this?
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Post by tabitha on Jun 12, 2006 11:00:48 GMT
Yes, my grandad fed my dog on stuff like that all her life. Thats why I thought the mince thing might work as I seem to remember my dog eating mince, potatoes and carrots quite happily (obviously was not a vegan dawg though).
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