neil
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Post by neil on Jun 15, 2007 15:17:58 GMT
I have just read a report in my local paper about the " Race for life" that was run in my area recently and it had around 5,000 female runners and is a massive fund raiser for Cancer research all over the country which means it more than likely funds vivisection.
What do people here think? Could we not start a "Race against death" that funded alternative research and promoted the AR/ healthy vegan diet argument.
Would this be counter productive or not practical. I believe Animal Aid promote a charity walk for animals but don't really know much about that.
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Post by veganbikerboy on Jun 15, 2007 17:08:16 GMT
I had a big argument with a sister of one of my friends last year, she asked me to sponser her and i said NO!! she got on her high horse and told me about all the members of her family that had cancer Blah Blah Blah Blah I then replied with a) if your family didnt eat meat and dairy they would have been less likely to get cancer in the first place. b) do you know how many hundreds of animals die in pusuit of a cure and why are they less important than humans c) by donating money to animal research you will not find a cure because the techniques are out dated, therefore your fund raising is a waste of time ;D i must add this was in the middle of a party (work related) erm...i was a little drunk, I was not popular, and was asked to apologise to her, i refused
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Post by veggiewoman on Jun 15, 2007 19:29:28 GMT
I hate Cancer Research UK, 1 of the employees alone is on over £2half million a year. www.bava.org.uk/cancer.html this i one of BAVA interesting articles about cancer research money making businesses. I recenlty got asked if I would sponser a friend to do the marathon and I refused out rite to do so, the response I got was "but don't you want to cure cancer" to which I replied " YES exactly , I DO want to cure cancer , thats why I am not sponsering CRUK". Cancer is a money making industry, the more people have it , the more money they make, so of course they are not wanting to cure it . I agree that we should have a sponser run of that is deliberatly agasint such organsiations as CRUK to make people know that CRUK is nothing more than a money making industry at the cost of peoples lives.
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Post by Pob on Jun 15, 2007 20:04:23 GMT
Last time we were in Oxford for a SPEAK demo there was a Race for Life going on. It is so well marketed And even if you tell people about the animal testing, they believe it is the best/only way. Breast cancer is not a massive killer. It never was. 79% of women diagnosed and treated will survive 10 years or more, compared to 60% in the 90's. The big difference is almost entirely down to awareness, screening and early treatment. So called breakthrough treatments like Herceptin, in real terms, make f*** all difference to the figures. (In one test 20 women out of 1000 treated with Herceptin died within x years, versus 30 out of 1000 not treated. This is then used to prove that Herceptin improves survival rates by 50%.)
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Post by squirrel on Jun 18, 2007 9:56:05 GMT
A woman at work (a survivor of breast cancer) asked me to sponsor her for the race for life. I said i would but would send the money to a non-vivisection cancer project instead. She seemed happy with that.
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Post by theam on Oct 14, 2007 19:41:29 GMT
I hate Cancer Research UK, 1 of the employees alone is on over £2half million a year. www.bava.org.uk/cancer.html this i one of BAVA interesting articles about cancer research money making businesses. I recenlty got asked if I would sponser a friend to do the marathon and I refused out rite to do so, the response I got was "but don't you want to cure cancer" to which I replied " YES exactly , I DO want to cure cancer , thats why I am not sponsering CRUK". Cancer is a money making industry, the more people have it , the more money they make, so of course they are not wanting to cure it . I agree that we should have a sponser run of that is deliberatly agasint such organsiations as CRUK to make people know that CRUK is nothing more than a money making industry at the cost of peoples lives. Agree 100%
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Post by shariblackvelvet on Jun 18, 2008 17:03:30 GMT
I've had a friend send an email out for 2 years running to a bunch of us asking us to sponsor her for Race Of Life. Both times I replied that I won't support it as Cancer Research tests on animals. It's annoying that so many people think they are doing 'good' by doing the race, when CRUK harm animals in the name of science which doesn't even come up with any good results/a cure. How many years have they been testing on animals and what cures of they come up with? More and more people seem to be dying from cancer these days and it's because of things like eating meat - and they're not being cured because they're testing on animals and because of that the medication doesn't work.
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