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Post by veggiesosage on Mar 5, 2007 22:38:36 GMT
There's a programme just starting now on BBC3 about meat production, this one on beef. Think its a weekly thing. Its called 'Kill it, Cook it, Eat it'
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Post by veggiesosage on Mar 5, 2007 22:46:19 GMT
Bloody hell, they're actually showing the slaughter! The cow was clearly still kicking after the captive bolt and this vet doing the commentary was describing it as 'involuntary muscle contractions'. It then started kicking again when they slit its throat which she again called 'more involuntary contractions'. They've got this live audience behind some windows, they don't look at all happy.
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Post by veggiesosage on Mar 5, 2007 22:51:00 GMT
Apparently they're showing 3 being done, however, after the first one obviously not going so well they've not shown so much of the second one. There was a bit of a shot of it kicking before moving the shot away. Audience members looking very distressed. Vet reduced to making anodyne remarks about how it looks like a 'well raised animal'.
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Post by veggiesosage on Mar 5, 2007 23:01:12 GMT
The presenter just asked what the vet would do if there was anything the vet was unhappy with. I took this to mean the animal's 'welfare' but she just went off on how if there was any trace of disease they would throw part or all of the animal away and that 'public health' was paramount.
They're actually going to cook part of the animal now and serve it to the audience who watched it, might be interesting.
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Post by veggiesosage on Mar 5, 2007 23:17:24 GMT
Hmmm, they all just lapped it up, either they've got post traumatic stress disorder from the experience or they're sick f***ers. They kept on banging on about the 'craftsmenship' of the blokes doing the slaughtering, gawd save us . None of them remarked about the kicking after it was supposed to be dead, I suspect they all just wiped that from their memories. There's another one on tomorrow about lamb. Could be interesting to see how the audience handles that as lambs are a bit more cute and cuddly than cows. I think I'm gonna have a look on the BBC website as there's likely to be a comments page.
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Post by veggiesosage on Mar 5, 2007 23:48:09 GMT
This is repeated later at 1am if anybody does want to watch or record it. It is obviously quite disturbing and isn't for everyone. This is the website for the prog www.bbc.co.uk/bbcthree/programmes/kill_it/index.shtmlThere's no dedicated comments section but there is a link to their 'have your say' thing.
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Post by veggiesosage on Mar 6, 2007 0:27:51 GMT
I just sent this in to the BBC's 'Have your say' thing;
'The thing I found most disturbing about this programme was that the cow was clearly still alive and kicking and struggling after both the captive bolt and the throat being cut. However this was accepted uncritically by the presenter (and in my view presented dishonestly by the vet providing the commentary) as involuntary 'contractions'.
I simply do not accept this. The cow was not moving immediately after the captive bolt, suggesting it was initially stunned, but clearly started struggling when it was tied and winched up. Again, the movement after the throat being slit was clearly a struggle and a response to the throat slitting.
I don't accept that the vet is in any position to claim that these are 'involuntary contractions' while unconscious, its not as if anyone's in a position to ask the cow. This should have been looked at much more critically as it is a central claim by the meat industry that slaughtered animals do not 'suffer' and my view from seeing the programme was that they clearly do. '
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Post by squirrel on Mar 6, 2007 10:37:25 GMT
I think you're very brave to watch that programme. Even the promos for it made me feel sick.
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Post by littlegirlbunny on Mar 6, 2007 11:16:23 GMT
It always feels like the BBC has a distinctly anti-veggie stance and that they are determined to keep the 'great british public' eating meat. Oh the joys of a conservative institution. I'm so glad I don't have a TV and don't have to fund their blatent support of the meat industry by paying a licence fee.
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