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Post by Tiggerwoos on Aug 28, 2006 22:41:00 GMT
Just read this article, obviously by a fruitarian, which seemed to really give veggies and vegans a bashing. What do you think? I know being a fruitarian is something I'd never do, but the person that wrote that really seemed to be anti veg*ns. www.vegetus.org/essay/plants.htm
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Post by paul on Aug 28, 2006 22:53:51 GMT
thats the reason I'm vegan, not because i care about animals its
because i hate vegetables ;D
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Post by Limey on Aug 29, 2006 3:18:45 GMT
I just don't the whole article. I feel like I'm being tugged back and forth. Could also be because I am so tired.
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Post by fezzarooooo on Aug 29, 2006 10:29:00 GMT
I got half way down and my eyes couldn't cope with the white page any more.
It's funny I was explaining to a group of omnivores about fruitarians & freegans and how some vegans look at them the way omnis look at us... they where laughing at the thought of a pecking order but I was telling them there is and this articles proves it. It would be easy to laugh at the article but in reality it would be kinda like they way the omnis scorn our ideas.
Saying that I disagree with the article.
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Post by paul on Aug 29, 2006 11:39:52 GMT
all ways the diplomat hunn
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Post by fezzarooooo on Aug 29, 2006 11:42:25 GMT
lol not really, but I just see similarities in the attitude that the different groups have towards each other sometimes.
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Post by paul on Aug 29, 2006 12:01:31 GMT
i agree but im not as kind as you
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Post by veggiesosage on Aug 29, 2006 12:04:18 GMT
A lot of meat eaters do argue quite seriously that animals have no consciousness and thats why its ok to eat them.
Apparently Jains are quite often more or less fruitarian. And it would be a lot easier if it weren't for a lot of intensive farming techniques ie a lot of practices kill the plant when it would be possible, although a lot more labour intensive, to harvest the fruit without killing the plant.
However I'm not convinced its nutritionally or practically possible to be fruitarian. Like the article says, all forms of agriculture would have to go and it would be foraging existence.
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Post by squirrel on Sept 27, 2006 11:25:29 GMT
Interesting article, but the author does give the impression the v*ganism is a waste of time if you're not prepared to be fruitarian.
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Post by maisiepaisie on Sept 30, 2006 8:28:59 GMT
I'd like to be fruitarian but I can't be bothered so this does apply to me and I feel guilty now. Maybe one day I'll be fruitarian when I only have to find food for myself
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Post by sweetnessandlight on Sept 30, 2006 12:00:26 GMT
I admire fruitarianism, and would ideally adopt that diet. But it's not a practical option in this country at this time, unless you are going to import loads of fruit from other climates and increase the air miles... I guess one could just up and move to a warm climate where fruit can be locally sourced all year round, but that doesn't really provide an answer for an entire population?
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sarah
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Post by sarah on Oct 2, 2006 3:56:14 GMT
i think it would be very hard to live only on fruit. i dont think i would have the willpower.
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Post by moriarty on Oct 2, 2006 18:48:53 GMT
I agree Sarah. The principle sounds ideal but I fear the reality would be too many cravings for other foodstuffs.
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sarah
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Post by sarah on Oct 3, 2006 18:40:36 GMT
espeically during the winter.
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Post by moriarty on Oct 4, 2006 7:17:01 GMT
Agreed. The summer is easier with the cool fresh fruit in the hot sun.
I think it would be quite expensive in the UK if you wanted to include exotic/tropical fruit. It can cost a lot as we import lots of this stuff.
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Post by astrocat on Oct 13, 2006 19:29:31 GMT
Ah, yeah - i saw this before and thought his argumentation was a bit rambling. His autobiographical bit mentiones that he is vegan, but not fruitarian * (* edited to say fruitarian instead of vegetarian as i had typed the wrong word before)His argumentation becomes very selective and patchy in many places, for example - He has tacked on the second sentence in the question which he then answers, and dismissed the unnecessary extra part without responding to the actual point being made. He is doing the standard fleshivore thing, where he is now comparing humans who eat flesh to wild carnivorous animals in his assertiosn that eating flesh is no less ethically sound than eating plants. If he does not think there is any difference between the two, that tells us a great deal about his approach, and lays a very shaky foundation for what he is saying. He believes that humans are naturally flesh eaters, even though it seems obvious to me that seem to be herbivorous, naturally.... In short, does anyone actually know who this guy is ? I'm suspicious - perhaps he is just a bog-standard flesh-eater masquerading as a vegan. I reckon that his essay certainly shouldn;t be taken as any sort of straw-man representation of fruitarian views on the subject, though. His assertions are certainly not ones which i have seen reflected by fruitarian people, and as such i do not feel that it proves anything about fruitarians in general, and how they think.
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Post by horselesspaul on Oct 13, 2006 21:59:05 GMT
'Fruitarianism' is spurious oneup-personship bollocks, imo. If you think plants have rights then fair enough but you are a bona fide nutter, imo, of course. Don't walk on the grass. You might kill it. Get a f*cking life.
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Post by astrocat on Oct 14, 2006 17:40:22 GMT
Trolls and haters, there's always one Slagging others off, as if it's fun Nothing meaningful they will say But they choose to do it anyway Displaying their knowledge, full of holes Why do they choose to be haters & trolls
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